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Presbyterian here.

Two things.

First, the Reformation isn't the cause of all the ills of which you complain. It's the result of the failure of the Vatican project by the end of the fifteenth century. Pretending that didn't happen

Second, the whole bit about an infallible authority sounds great, in theory. It would certainly solve a lot of problems. Of course, the very fact that we're having this conversation suggests that, in practice, things have not worked out that way. C.f. the aforementioned collapse of the Vatican project. The Eastern church never bought Rome's claims to supremacy. Hence AD 1054. But once the Avignon Papacy happened, the bloom was entirely off that rose.

That's the thing about supposedly infallible authority figures/structures. They can't afford to ever be wrong. Not even once. As soon as you've got more than one dude claiming to be the heir of St. Peter, the jig is up. Entirely. The whole premise of the project is that Rome can always be trusted. At every point in time. But it quite obviously cannot.

And sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending none of those things happened, or that an unknown but likely quite large portion of the hierarchy belong to the Pink Mafia, isn't a good faith basis for discussion.

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